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May 2008

Interview: Jim Kirkhope of NCR

Securing corporate networks against insider attacks is a difficult challenge to be sure. But how do you prevent such attacks on 1.5 million ATMs worldwide? That's the job of Jim Kirkhope, global manager for ATM network security at NCR, who sees it as an inside-out proposition and one that doesn't necessarily include traditional security software. JIM KIRKHOPE There are established ways of locking down desktops and servers. How do you secure a network of ATMs? With ATMs, the real threats are the insider threats. We have a number of things we do. The majority of the ATMs are Windows-based now. We lock the machines down to the NSA guidelines and use the XP firewall. But, really, you're never going to keep an eye on them all. There are a lot of people out there maintaining ATMs; a lot of people are touching these machines. What led to your decision not to integrate antivirus on your ATMs any longer? My feeling: AV was AV was AV. They all did the same thing. When we shipped our machines, we would integrate what the customer wanted. ...

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